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- From: Hal Hildebrand <halh@polymorphicSoftware.com>
- Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.smalltalk
- Subject: Re: Advice to Java proponents (was Re: Will Java kill C++?)
- Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 09:05:08 -0700
- Organization: Polymorphic Software, Inc.
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- Todd Hoff wrote:
- >
- > Rick DeNatale wrote:
- >
- > > Smalltalk also had the benefit of being used for many years before it was
- > > widely available and therefore not having to 'grow up' in the intense
- > > arena generated by the frenzy accorded C++ and now to an even larger
- > > extent Java.
- >
- > The why did not smalltalk take off? One question i asked
- > a while ago, is if smalltalk is so easy to use and develop
- > in then why are the tools so damn expensive? Why are there
- > expensive runtimes? Why is there no portable standard?
- > Java is free as air compared to smalltalk. Java is in addition
- > a good language with near universal support. That's a lot to
- > overcome with tepid arguments of productivity gains.
-
- The tools are so damn expensive because of
- the well known
- law of supply and demand. If there wasn't any
- demand, as you Java-ites
- are claiming, they couldn't command the prices they
- are charging. Something
- that flies in the face of the statments made here
- about Smalltalk
- being dead.
- Anyway, I really don't care if Java wins or
- Smalltalk. They
- both are the wave of the future, and finally GC,
- VM's, fully OO languages
- are getting the attention they deserve. I can move
- easily to any language
- that is as good as, or better than Smalltalk. Most
- of my massive library
- o' code will port straight across to anything that
- is a reasonable
- successor to Smalltalk.
- I say "party on". Whoever wins will be
- fine with me.
-
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